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Placebo criticized Freetrack for "piggybacking" on TrackIR's API... Well I am going to quote myself with this one...
Because the cost is lower and carries a coolness factor, it is almost infectious and people at LAN parties take on an interest and pursue head tracking on their own. This is good for the gaming community. I suspect that NP is getting a LOT of business from Freetrack's success. It is like a snowball effect... a few people build a Freetrack system and other people see it online in youtube or at a LAN and say "holy sh*t, i GOTTA do that"... and the headtracking userbase grows. Sure a lot of people are going to choose Freetrack, but some of them will go with TrackIR. So in this sense, TrackIR sales are benefiting from the contributions from Freetrack. NP is piggybacking on FT's success. There is NO denying that. Another metric to consider: BIS claims that the TIR user base exceeds that of FT. I find this very hard to believe. Look at the forums over at BIS. Everyone with TIR1/2/3 are S.O.L.... they are in the same boat as us FT people. How many legacy TIR people are bitching? Surely if TIR has such a large marketshare advantage, there would be more legacy TIR users than FT ones. I call bullshit. On a related note: I am a steam customer. I bought the game via retail and have the DVD. Like the idiot that I am, i activated the product on Steam before installing and it slowly downloaded the whole thing. The reward for my patiences is that I do not have securom protection now. PLEASE, someone, tell me that there is a FT fix for Steam clients.  I could not find it.If there is no existing fix, I will have to go digging through the code and fix it myself. I probably need to speak with whoever found the original fix and find out which bits were changed so that I can employ a similar fix within the Steam client. |
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Thanks for the info.
Once I get this working for the Steam client, I will need an anonymous release vehicle. The last thing that I want is to become involved in a legal war with a monopolist. Then again, it has been a long time since I have been in court...  Technically speaking, the *correct* way to fix this problem from a software engineering standpoint is to add support for the encryption used in the newest version of TIR to the FreeTrack code. Since the authors of FreeTrack would not be likely to do such a thing, it would have to be an unofficial patch to FreeTrack, or better yet, an external program that bridged the applications. With an external program, users of TIR v1/2/3 would re-gain the lost functionality and everyone wins (well, maybe not NP) |
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sounds like an absolutely GREAT idea if you can make it work!!!
I particularly like the irony of it helping out the tIR 1/2/3 crew too! Class!  B |
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Hi, Im having this problem:
I installed the game, the patch, I've aplied the crack and the fixer. But Im missing something, I cant move the head in the game... Do I have to configure the game or something in special? or Its just like the IL2 & LFS, run FT, then run the game? Thx for the help People  |
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OK, i have FT working inside of ArmA2 now... kinda.
I notice that while on foot, X translation equates to leaning left/right. While in the cockpit, however, you cannot tilt head left/right (roll), you cannot translate left/right/up/down. You can, however, zoom with front/rear translation. Pitch and yaw affect your viewpoint as expected.... So this is what, 3DOF in the cockpit? Is this the best that can be expected, or am I missing something with the setup? :/ ** UPDATE ** Apparently this is all that is supported in ArmA2 I guess that mediocrity is contagious and that BIS caught a nasty case during intercourse with NP. :/I find the other 3 degrees of freedom to be immensely valuable while piloting helicopters. I can MOVE my head within the cockpit instead of just changing where I am looking. If I want to, i can move my head right up next to a gauge to read it. In ArmA, you cannot look straight down below the aircraft because you cannot MOVE your head to the sides to get up against the glass... Check out this video I made a long time ago with FS2004. Sad that FS2004 supports 6DoF and it is 5 years old... and ArmA2 leaves us wishing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQlAHE5LciM |
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Good video Bomba
Ok for the record guys I am dropping the issue with BIS. They are not going to fix this issue for a long time. They are putting all their efforts to patching the bugs and other things they left screwed up in the game when they released it. So instead of releasing a solid bug free product they yet again released a bug riddled mess. They did the same thing with Arma 1 and spent forever patching it to get it to run stable, fast, and squash all the other bugs. With this being said and after getting PM's from Suma, it is obvious they put Free Track support wayyyy down on their list of "to do's". I think our best bet is just to rely on people such as Quarrion. This is going to be our ONLY option at Free Track in ArmA 2. Natural Point Vincent - You are a chicken shit little guy. You going to pop in here with a Ninja smiley like you are cute. You and your company are the lowest of the low. You don't even support your past hardware releases in new titles. You are not in the business of supplying a quality product. You are in the business of screwing people over. Not only have you screwed over your own customers but you are attempt to screw over Free Track and other head tracking options. I hate your company!!!! Hate is a strong word, but in all honesty I HATE Natural Point. I will NEVER own a natural point product. Hell you can put every head tracking company out of business and I will still NEVER buy a Natural Point product. I lost hope guys, sorry  |
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No problem, you did good and... I told you Anyone knows what's the situation of freetrack in rise of flight (the new WW1 flightsim)? EDIT: @tsar bomba: keep an eye on this site http://www.kegetys.net/arma/ He made 6DOF available in arma(1) and he's my last hope to see freetrack supported in arma2 via a addon. |
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Small points of interest...
I took a note, and the last Freetrack thread to be closed recently has had more views since it was closed than it had while it was open! I've opened or contributed to threads on a couple of other forums too - mentioning the fact that the fix works for TrackIR 1/2/3 owners as well... Would be funny if someone posted THAT bit of news on the BIS TrackIR thread!! KEGETYS!!!! One of my all-time favourite wildcard programming genius dudes!!! Not only do I headtrack for free thanks to Freetrack (quarrion et al), but I do it across 54" of monitors - like this....  ... also for free - with his awesome SoftTH... (ok - not entirely free... u need a coupla extra monitors an just about any old cheesy secondary graphics card)... A deeply clever guy...... (PS - check out the little reflective beads on my nanoclip glowing like crazy reflecting the flash! - its like the SuperBloom in Arma2 - hehe - if you saw the photo of it without flash, you'll know that they physically arent that big - they just reflect REALLY well - from every angle, cause they're spheres..... I really do think the Reflec-style tracking is the quickest and easiest option if anybody's in the market for buying a new cam...). @ hotshot... It ain't over yet, buddy! Though I DO agree that for the forseeable future BIS are gonna be REAL busy just fixing heavyweight bugs and we're on our own... That's cool - we're used to that... I don't write BIS of entirely... yet... you know how sloooow they are... I see they've had to wheel out the Big Boss to placate the baying hordes.... http://www.armedassault.info/index.php?s=b1b707c7db0cf1a965791aec428f4fb8&cat=news&id=2754&game=1 6DoF... I think this was hyped like crazy by NP for the TrackIR5/Arma2 combo - except it never happened..... Keg DID get it working tho - via his own "ArmaLib"... Details here... http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=67918&highlight=6DoF B |
I have a shrine to Kegetys at my house... i am familiar with his work. SoftTH FTW |
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Bush, bro I LOVE your setup. The invisible light source with the reflective setup is top notch. The 3 monitors is pretty badass to  @Jorge Yea bro I know, I gave it my all that is for sure. Now it is time to quit the talking and get something resolved for us. That way we can all go about our business and leave the money hungry companies alone. |
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