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Blackbird #61 09/07/2012 - 01h10

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Gian92 @ 09/07/2012 - 01h05 a dit:

White in an illuminated environment  and default cam settings ;)



I don't really get what you mean by that  :)
Did the measuring again and it's still 1,8 cm ...
So could you give me a link to the correct lens and mount?
Cheers!
Gian92 #62 09/07/2012 - 01h12

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Blackbird @ 09/07/2012 - 01h07 a dit:


Sure, just carefully connect it to the PC and see if it works with the CL Eye test, although you would see just a white image. If you see it, it's OK.[/quote]

Just tested it: it still is able to detect the shade if I hold my finger in front of the light so I think it's ok  :)[/quote]

Good to read, repeat the test with light to be sure ;)
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Blackbird @ 09/07/2012 - 01h10 a dit:

Gian92 @ 09/07/2012 - 01h05 a dit:

White in an illuminated environment  and default cam settings ;)



I don't really get what you mean by that  :)
Did the measuring again and it's still 1,8 cm ...
So could you give me a link to the correct lens and mount?
Cheers!



I just meant to make the camera test with an illuminated environment (that is, with light hitting the sensor) to see the white image. That's all.
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Gian92 @ 09/07/2012 - 01h10 a dit:


So if your measurement is correct you should get this mount, which is the 18 mm version.

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Gian92 #65 09/07/2012 - 01h19

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I guess I gave you the Italian links.

Just login in eBay and search the following:

110881658424
110877984184

Cheers
Edited by Gian92 on 09/07/2012 at 01h21.
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Blackbird #66 09/07/2012 - 01h22

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I'll repeat the test tomorrow with a lightsource, but for now I think it's a good sign it is able to detect the shade of my finger in contrast of the lighted enviroment. :)

Thanks again! Hopefully I'll get a good setup soon. We got the LED's working for new, just have to permanantly attach them to the hat.

Off to bed now!
Talk to you later and I'll keep you updated!
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Blackbird @ 08/07/2012 - 23h06 a dit:

Steph @ 08/07/2012 - 18h35 a dit:

You can get PS3 Eye for about 15€ on the net.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-Eye-Camera-EyeCreate/dp/B000W3YQ1Y

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000W3YQ1Y/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new



Do you know if I could thrust these links?
And I live in belgium, so maybe I'll have to pay more for shipping...



http://www.amazon.fr/Cam%C3%A9ra-Playstation-Eye-compatible-Move/dp/B000W3YQ1Y/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1341823387&sr=1-1-catcorr

Item is new and delivered free for belgium "en point relais"
Blackbird #68 09/07/2012 - 11h00

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I looked at eBay and I found that the cost is 20 euro for the lens + 3 euro for the M12 mount + 10 euro shipment...
That's only 6 euro less than a new one...

Is this worth it? I mean: is this new lens really better than a regular cam with photofilm? What is your experience?
Gian92 #69 09/07/2012 - 11h21

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I don't want to influence your choice, so it's up to you. I can list the pros and the cons that I can recognise.

New PS3 Eye

Pros
_You know that it will work without hassle (well, if not DOA)

Cons
_You would be at the same point of before: infrared cut-off filter still present in the camera.


New objective lens + mount

Pros
_You would be using your already-owned PS3 Eye
_You would get an objective lens optimised for the infrared spectrum
_Little or no need of an additional filter if the environment isn't too bright

Cons
_Price

You decide.
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Blackbird #70 09/07/2012 - 14h28

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Could you give a picture or something of your setup with the new lens?
Because the lens is bigger, are you sure it still fits in the regular plastic cover of the cam?
And does the tracking work perfectly with that setup?

So the thing I want to know is:
Does the one with the new lens get a better tracking than the original cam with photofilm over it?
Grtz
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Blackbird @ 09/07/2012 - 14h28 a dit:

Could you give a picture or something of your setup with the new lens?
Because the lens is bigger, are you sure it still fits in the regular plastic cover of the cam?
And does the tracking work perfectly with that setup?


Link

You have to remove the rotating tubular handle (the one used to change the zoom level which is also the cover of the objective lens). It's easy since it's removable.

Blackbird @ 09/07/2012 - 14h28 a dit:


So the thing I want to know is:
Does the one with the new lens get a better tracking than the original cam with photofilm over it?
Grtz


According to empirical data, yes it does, thanks to the lack of an infrared cut-off filter (like the hot mirror) and enhanced infrared radiation transmittance.
Edited by Gian92 on 09/07/2012 at 15h00.
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Gian92 #72 09/07/2012 - 14h55

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Also, in the link of my modified camera scroll down to see the last two images of the post (what the camera and FreeTrack see, respectively).
If you need further pictures just ask.
Edited by Gian92 on 09/07/2012 at 14h56.
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Blackbird #73 09/07/2012 - 22h28

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Contacted the friendly seller and I'll try to do the payment tomorrow  :)
Blackbird #74 10/07/2012 - 11h16

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Payement is made!
I wasn't able to find the option to ship both items together...
But the seller told me he would refund me, but we'll see  :)
Hopefully I'm able to fit the lens very soon!
Total pricetag at the moment for the modifications 32 Euro.
Maybe minus 3 Euro if the seller refunds the shipment.

Update: got back the 2,5 GBP for the second shipment
Cheers
Edited by Blackbird on 10/07/2012 at 12h27.
Gian92 #75 10/07/2012 - 14h47

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While waiting to assemble the parts, prepare a photographic film or a floppy disk magnetic layer, just in case.  ;)

Cheers
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